You don't really get much damage from the hydrostatic "pressure" of tissues ripping from a handgun. It's not my favorite substance in the world, but it demonstrates that if you fire a rifle round into it, the temporary cavity is extremely large. It's there, but it's minimal as compared to a rifle round and, you know, I think that's where ballistic gel. Vail: You really don't get much of a temporary cavity with a handgun. POLICE: Can a significant temporary wound cavity be produced by a handgun bullet? Because of the ballistics profile and the amount of energy that a rifle round carries with it and dumps into the body, a rifle is a much better instrument to stop a threat. Handguns are lousy stoppers it doesn't matter the caliber, they are just not great at stopping threats. So, stopping a threat really does not come down to caliber, it is shot placement. You hit them with a 9mm in the shoulder, they're gonna survive. 45 in the shoulder, they're gonna survive. Because unless you hit something vital, it doesn't matter what you hit them with. Vail: Other than the size of the ballistic projectile, nope. POLICE: Is there really a significant difference in terms of wound ballistics between a 9mm. If I can agree with them after that review, then I'll be there to testify for them. If it's a clean shoot, I'm happy to review it. So I make it known that I am willing to help defend a police officer who is accused of excessive force based on the number of shots fired. I know that the human body can tolerate many gunshots and still function so that the person is still a threat to the police officer. I got involved in wound ballistics and what it really took to stop a threat during residency in Philadelphia because I had a friend on the police force who lost his job for use of excessive force by shooting somebody, I think it was, 18 times, and I always thought, maybe he needed to shoot that person 18 times to stop the threat.Īs a surgeon, I saw what bullets don't do to the human body, meaning they don't kill it, they don't just stop it.which is why I wrote that article about stopping power it's really a myth. It's not uncommon for me to get 8 or 10 or 12 wounds and people survive. Some were just entry, some were entry/exits. Vail: The largest number of bullet wounds has been 22. POLICE: What's the highest number of rounds you've seen shot into a person who's survived? You have took my baby.The following is an excerpt of a longer interview covering tactical medicince, tourniquet use by officers, and wound ballistics that will be published in the January 2018 Police Magazine and on. You had no business taking her life away from her child. "You had no right to take my baby from me. I don't know what to do," said Jacquline Foley. "I've never experience the hurt, the pain that I'm feeling. Her son, Keyandre, is now staying with his grandmother, Jacquline Foley, in southeast Texas. He's in jail with no bond.įoley's family shared their heartbreak with ABC13 Friday. The neighbor, 22-year-old Maxwell Williamson, said he forgot that there was a bullet in the chamber.Īuthorities have charged Williamson with involuntary manslaughter and reckless conduct. Authorities said they found a bullet hole in the wall of the apartment.įoley's neighbor told police his gun went off while he was cleaning the weapon. Her 17-year-old son said he was the one who found her lifeless body in the bed. Gwinnett County police said 36-year-old Carlether Foley died from a gunshot wound to the head as she slept in her apartment in Duluth, Georgia on Sept.